Stuart Goldsmith - Admitting the grot and bridging the corporate "Say-Do" gap through vulnerability
In modern marketing and corporate governance, companies face intense pressure to project absolute perfection. Annual reports and international summits are flooded with sweeping declarations of how organisations will achieve net-zero carbon targets in record time. Yet, beneath the polished corporate public relations, audiences are hyper-aware of a profound say-do gap: the cavernous mismatch between what an organisation claims on a stage and what it actually achieves operationally.
During an episode of the Sustainability Marketing Survival Conversations podcast, host Simon Badman and climate comedian Stuart Goldsmith explored how leaning into human imperfection, rather than hiding it, is the ultimate way to dissolve audience scepticism and build authentic trust.
The trap of exaggeration
To illustrate why organisations fall into the say-do trap, Simon shares a personal story from a visit to the Gambia. After watching an expert effortlessly wind-surf across the horizon without seemingly even getting his feet wet, Simon internalised a false perception: "That looks easy." The next day, when asked by the instructors if he had ever windsurfed before, Simon confidently fibbed: "Yes, of course I have." Within minutes, his complete lack of training was exposed, and he spent the rest of the session tied to a safety rope.
This sequence perfectly mirrors corporate sustainability slip-ups. Brands look at market expectations, assume compliance can be easily managed, and wildly exaggerate their internal abilities to create sustainable impact. When regulators, competitors, or consumers demand to see the data and the hours put into the strategy, the brand is caught completely off guard.
Normalising action via imperfect stories
The traditional antidote to greenwashing has been corporate silence (greenhushing), but comedy offers a more effective alternative: telling stories of action in which you fail.
When communicating sustainability, human beings immediately put their guards up if they feel they are being preached to or judged. Stuart shatters this defensive barrier by stepping onto the stage and framing himself not as an eco-saint, but as a self-aware hypocrite:
- The Vegan Paradox: Stuart openly tells his audiences that turning vegan is one of the single most impactful things an individual can do for agricultural land use and the climate. He then immediately admits: "I’m not. Hard pass. But you have to be." By operating as a non-vegan extolling the virtues of veganism while laughing at his own failure to live up to the ideal, he completely reframes the conversation. Instead of alienating people, audience members routinely approach him afterwards to say it’s the closest they’ve ever come to actually considering a plant-based diet.
- The EV Reversing Camera: When discussing his electric vehicle, Stuart does not present it as a flawless eco-friendly triumph. He jokes about it being a nightmare, highlighting that it's a secondhand model but still the newest car he's ever owned. He quips: "It’s got a reversing camera, which is great because I’ve put my shoulder out patting myself on the back."
"If you want people to like you and trust you, you tell a story where you fail," Stuart explains. "Our instinct when meeting stakeholders is to list our achievements so they regard us as reasonable. But vulnerability normalises the attempt. I can tell stories of attempted action because it normalises the landscape of positive attempts for everyone else."
Admitting the grot
For modern marketers, this strategy requires a radical departure from traditional hyperbole. Trust is built by "admitting the grot", which means acknowledging the friction, the mistakes, and the systemic contradictions built into the sustainability transition. By pulling back the curtain on the challenges of operational transformation, brands cease to be sterile entities and instead become credible, human partners in a shared global effort.










